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| Should people have to roll Int/Wis/Cha to resist spells? | | Yes | | 72% | [ 8 ] | | No | | 27% | [ 3 ] |
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Braska

Posts: 17 Join date: 2008-07-26 Age: 19
 | Subject: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:02 am | |
| Should we have it that a person has to roll using int/cha/wis to resist a magic spell? In FF i don't think it was shown that warriors could simply bash away a spell. I believe they can dodge but not brute force it. Anywho vote. End decision i will speak to jecht about. |
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Nirvana620

Posts: 55 Join date: 2008-07-31 Age: 22 Location: Who knows.........
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:57 am | |
| I agree. You can't just smash away a fireball or whtever, you may be able to dodge it but thats it.....and with the ability to use Int, Wis, Cha, it will be more fair for other classes besides fighter. (My opinin) _________________ I like Rage against the machines.....(its a band)
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Fighter

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-08-04
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:17 am | |
| | Nirvana620 wrote: | | I agree. You can't just smash away a fireball or whtever, you may be able to dodge it but thats it.....and with the ability to use Int, Wis, Cha, it will be more fair for other classes besides fighter. (My opinin) |
And what is a melee supposed to do in a fight against a mage? attack with what spells? if you remove their ability to respond then you remove their ability to attack._________________  A long time ago on a console far far away.... |
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DM Jecht Admin

Posts: 70 Join date: 2008-07-25
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:02 am | |
| i think they should. reason why is because it weeds out the powerbuilding with one high stat.. making it so people should either benifit or suffice for it. |
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dalerawks

Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-07-25 Age: 20 Location: C-town, IN
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:30 pm | |
| Sorry but to all you powerbuilders out there who neglected a certain sat such as INT/WIS/CHA/Dex you are in a world of hurt. I think that this will accurately rep a strong character's flaw in the fact that he aint bright, or fast enough to dodge spells 1/2 the time. I approve. For all you mage out there...... It is game time.  _________________ Eat my food...... or would you rather me cram it down your throat?
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Hasmiel
Posts: 7 Join date: 2008-07-31 Location: Here!!!
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:36 pm | |
| I like this,its like the actual games stat split of def/mdef,now we just need to think of something to explain how you can smart a fireball away... |
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Fighter

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-08-04
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:12 am | |
| yeah but it removes 100% any chance any fighter has i mean what am i supposed to do in a fight with a mage not use my sword and str? and certain spells should be marked as able to block or bash(becuase some are projectiles) _________________  A long time ago on a console far far away.... |
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Akai'zhar

Posts: 53 Join date: 2008-08-02
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:27 pm | |
| It's only fair i'd say. . .I mean really mages can't really evade/block melee characters attacks since they have naturally low modifier on it. Why would melee chars then be allowed to block with their highest stat on mages attack? Fair is fair i'd say this being the best solution. _________________ Yasharyn - ''Hopefuly you are done being an idiot''
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Fighter

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-08-04
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:35 pm | |
| in proposed system you can throw a ice spear at me and i have to some how block it with my mind then respond by throwing a spell (which non of my characters remotely know how to do). and a mage can create defensive shields using spells to block incoming attacks. Think of it like the explosive charges on the outside of a tank. They are used to explode outward to lessen or stop any damage from moving in.(dont point out that tanks have sense stopped using this system because i already know lol) If its fair for a mage to throw a spell a fighter has no prayer of stopping then force him to respond with a spell he has no pray in creating, then how is your proposal any more fair? _________________  A long time ago on a console far far away.... |
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DM Jecht Admin

Posts: 70 Join date: 2008-07-25
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:04 pm | |
| Uhh.. No mages in the History of FFX have defensive spells except White Mages. Black mages cant use Fire to block an incoming attack. why else do you think mages get hit easily? As well as Fighters.. Auron could never dodge Lulu's spells because he isn't fast at all. Neither would lulu be able to get away from Auron with his Masmune >.> i believe this system is remotely fair. |
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Fighter

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-08-04
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:57 pm | |
| sure it is if your a mage you get to blast a fighter all day and the fighter cant attack back _________________  A long time ago on a console far far away.... |
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Akai'zhar

Posts: 53 Join date: 2008-08-02
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:53 pm | |
| Erm who said anything about them not being able to attack back? It's the same thing with mages they can't dodge either after that . _________________ Yasharyn - ''Hopefuly you are done being an idiot''
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Hasmiel
Posts: 7 Join date: 2008-07-31 Location: Here!!!
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:54 pm | |
| Actually a fighter would have the advantage.The fighter would have a higher con so he would have more hp for a slug fest while a mage would have a high int/wis but a low dex/str so the mage would always hit and the fighter would always hit so it would simply become who rolls damage highest so no one has a real advantage.And in the case of white mages they would have healing and protections spells(maybe?) so with them it will just be a war of attricion where the mage heals and the fighter beats them down and so on and so forth(I had a fight like that once,the mage couldnt hit me and I just kept pounding taking away like 50 hp altogether while they only took away like 15).In either case the mage is at a disadvantage blocking against a fighter just like you and magic and remember,mages have to use mp so if they dont boost up their int they would run out of mp before they could finish you off. |
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Akai'zhar

Posts: 53 Join date: 2008-08-02
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:30 pm | |
| Black mages can also use charisma for Mp. Buuut while fighters have more con the mages have bit higher damage (around 1d2 or so compared to same level fighter) But think mages are on disadvantage allready they need to use MP to perform simple attacks which aren't much better than fighters attacks they also need to pay RP tokens to get better spells while fighters don't. _________________ Yasharyn - ''Hopefuly you are done being an idiot''
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dalerawks

Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-07-25 Age: 20 Location: C-town, IN
 | Subject: Re: Should it be Int/Wis/Cha? Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:23 pm | |
| To put it simple...... Fighters/martialclasses in FFX can take stand-alone fights... no issue..... mages need buddies to be successful..... Mages are a support class.... so why would a mage run around going. "I will duel a musscle ass, when I know a sword swing is gonna crap my style."? Mages want friends.... mages NEED help, and fighters need mage help, (Black,Blue,Red, White..... IDC) It doesnt matter you need each other to succeed at most things so as a mage... if you get into a fight, grab a friend.... hances are a stand alone duel with a mage wont turn out too well agaist a fighter.. said and done on my end. _________________ Eat my food...... or would you rather me cram it down your throat?
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